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		<title>By: Jack Kinsella</title>
		<link>http://thestory.ie/2009/12/10/a-smart-budget-for-a-smart-economy/comment-page-1/#comment-1549</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack Kinsella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 14:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ireland&#039;s chief hurdle towards developing a smart economy is it&#039;s negative attitude towards intellectualism.

I started university doing medicine in UCD 6 years ago. Despite being in one of Ireland&#039;s most prestigious courses I found only a handful of people who genuinely liked knowledge and learning. Mostly, it seemed, people did courses like this to satisfy a greedy ego - to &lt;i&gt; prove &lt;/i&gt; they were smart to themselves and the world, rather than actually be intelligent and think about how the world around them worked.

Whilst there were plenty of smart people in this course, the prevailing attitude quenched intellectual curiosities and replaced it with endless nights out, unremarkable ideas and interests and disdain at anyone who differed.

I dropped out of UCD after a year, disillusioned with my experiences at University. Luckily I ended up in Oxford a year where I found incredible humility, creativity, and intellectual respect.

What Ireland needs, more than anything, is to learn to respect hard work and intelligence once again, rather than quench it under an all destroying wave of collectivism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ireland&#8217;s chief hurdle towards developing a smart economy is it&#8217;s negative attitude towards intellectualism.</p>
<p>I started university doing medicine in UCD 6 years ago. Despite being in one of Ireland&#8217;s most prestigious courses I found only a handful of people who genuinely liked knowledge and learning. Mostly, it seemed, people did courses like this to satisfy a greedy ego &#8211; to <i> prove </i> they were smart to themselves and the world, rather than actually be intelligent and think about how the world around them worked.</p>
<p>Whilst there were plenty of smart people in this course, the prevailing attitude quenched intellectual curiosities and replaced it with endless nights out, unremarkable ideas and interests and disdain at anyone who differed.</p>
<p>I dropped out of UCD after a year, disillusioned with my experiences at University. Luckily I ended up in Oxford a year where I found incredible humility, creativity, and intellectual respect.</p>
<p>What Ireland needs, more than anything, is to learn to respect hard work and intelligence once again, rather than quench it under an all destroying wave of collectivism.</p>
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		<title>By: Billy Waters</title>
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		<dc:creator>Billy Waters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 00:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The way we educate is backward and going further backwards.  We don&#039;t learn from outside and are obsessed with things that don&#039;t matter.   Running a race really well is no good if its the wrong bloody race.  We are racing kids for the industrial economy that in case nobody has noticed has fecked off to China and Vietnam.  

Exams have their place but  learning how to learn is far far more important.  We don&#039;t learn from mistakes and failure and we never ever ever let the actual consumers of the education decide what they should learn.

We have the cart before the horse and ram the same old bollocks down kids throats harder and harder rather than working out how to educate for the future and not the mythical Ireland that FF keep yearning for. 

Paying teachers to teach the same things harder is expensive and wastes talent on an infinite scale. 

I have no faith in the ultra conservative ultra conventional &quot;thinking&quot; that goes on here that will ever create a knowledge economy when all resources and the be all and end all is doing the leaving cert better.

To have a smart economy we need to give up &quot;control&quot; and pass the responsibility for learning to the student who can choose without intimidation their own path.  It takes courage, free thinking and democracy.  Things we are lacking here.

Reinventing education and educating people how to teach themselves in the way they learn is cheaper in the long run than the meat factory that either turns you into an corn fed, compliant academic or throws you on the scrap heap or into prison.

So the usual FF guff of launching a report every 12 months with buzzword bingo phrases is utterly bankrupt.  The education system is too expensive, facing the wrong direction and educating for the past.  

There is practically no hope of changing it because the resistance to change from the incumbants is enormous.  

The smart economy will wake up and smell the coffee and get the hell out of here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The way we educate is backward and going further backwards.  We don&#8217;t learn from outside and are obsessed with things that don&#8217;t matter.   Running a race really well is no good if its the wrong bloody race.  We are racing kids for the industrial economy that in case nobody has noticed has fecked off to China and Vietnam.  </p>
<p>Exams have their place but  learning how to learn is far far more important.  We don&#8217;t learn from mistakes and failure and we never ever ever let the actual consumers of the education decide what they should learn.</p>
<p>We have the cart before the horse and ram the same old bollocks down kids throats harder and harder rather than working out how to educate for the future and not the mythical Ireland that FF keep yearning for. </p>
<p>Paying teachers to teach the same things harder is expensive and wastes talent on an infinite scale. </p>
<p>I have no faith in the ultra conservative ultra conventional &#8220;thinking&#8221; that goes on here that will ever create a knowledge economy when all resources and the be all and end all is doing the leaving cert better.</p>
<p>To have a smart economy we need to give up &#8220;control&#8221; and pass the responsibility for learning to the student who can choose without intimidation their own path.  It takes courage, free thinking and democracy.  Things we are lacking here.</p>
<p>Reinventing education and educating people how to teach themselves in the way they learn is cheaper in the long run than the meat factory that either turns you into an corn fed, compliant academic or throws you on the scrap heap or into prison.</p>
<p>So the usual FF guff of launching a report every 12 months with buzzword bingo phrases is utterly bankrupt.  The education system is too expensive, facing the wrong direction and educating for the past.  </p>
<p>There is practically no hope of changing it because the resistance to change from the incumbants is enormous.  </p>
<p>The smart economy will wake up and smell the coffee and get the hell out of here.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Greene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Greene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 00:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so if they were going to do it they would have used the budget to say they would fund the creation of the ICSC and the Exemplar Network.  http://url.ie/44ls i hope they do but I don&#039;t see the clues that they will</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so if they were going to do it they would have used the budget to say they would fund the creation of the ICSC and the Exemplar Network.  <a href="http://url.ie/44ls" rel="nofollow">http://url.ie/44ls</a> i hope they do but I don&#8217;t see the clues that they will</p>
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		<title>By: Branedy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Branedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 09:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even IF (very BIG if) there is a €58M increase, it&#039;s changed pockets, and ultimately will result in budget reorganizations in the respective departments which will consume that amount, resulting in a net gain (or loss) of ZERO for the &#039;smart economy&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even IF (very BIG if) there is a €58M increase, it&#8217;s changed pockets, and ultimately will result in budget reorganizations in the respective departments which will consume that amount, resulting in a net gain (or loss) of ZERO for the &#8216;smart economy&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: The Irish Smart Economy is a plea for fo&#8230; &#171; Paul M. Watson</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Irish Smart Economy is a plea for fo&#8230; &#171; Paul M. Watson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 07:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Irish Smart Economy is a plea for&#160;fo&#8230; The Irish Smart Economy is a plea for foreign companies to invest in call centres in Ireland. The 2010 budget last night has foreign-company IDA investment up 21%, indigenous Enterprise [...]</description>
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