Comments on: Tánaiste lies to the Dáil? http://thestory.ie/2010/02/05/tanaiste-lies/ Wed, 01 Feb 2012 16:38:20 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Mary Coughlan on BBC HardTalk – The Story http://thestory.ie/2010/02/05/tanaiste-lies/comment-page-1/#comment-2127 Mary Coughlan on BBC HardTalk – The Story Mon, 15 Feb 2010 17:56:42 +0000 http://thestory.ie/?p=1085#comment-2127 [...] or otherwise did the Review Body see bonuses as part of salary. Once again I have to wonder, is the Tánaiste lying? A disgrace, either [...] [...] or otherwise did the Review Body see bonuses as part of salary. Once again I have to wonder, is the Tánaiste lying? A disgrace, either [...]

]]> By: oliver1vandt http://thestory.ie/2010/02/05/tanaiste-lies/comment-page-1/#comment-2041 oliver1vandt Sun, 07 Feb 2010 23:12:17 +0000 http://thestory.ie/?p=1085#comment-2041 @Mark Coughlan I knew you had no links to them. I made my comment here because I know you're champions of transparency and they have linked to you on these issues in the past. The governance of the ESRI is extremely worrying and the place to discuss it is on their blog. They gave me a response as to why this thread had been closed which I found completely inadequate. The conclusion says it all. "While PE will continue to debate the issue of governance, and the publications and recommendations of all bodies contributing to the national economic debate, it was decided to close this thread given the content of some of the contributions and, so, move on.", i.e. you're making us feel uncomfortable, and, this being Ireland, we'd prefer to avoid the issue rather than to confront it. I have now made a comment asking them to raise these issues themselves and moderate the discussion if necessary. P.S. I have no issue with the staff of the ESRI as shown by my comments in this recent discussion. http://www.irisheconomy.ie/index.php/2010/02/03/municipal-waste-management-policy/#comment-34968 @Mark Coughlan
I knew you had no links to them. I made my comment here because I know you’re champions of transparency and they have linked to you on these issues in the past. The governance of the ESRI is extremely worrying and the place to discuss it is on their blog.

They gave me a response as to why this thread had been closed which I found completely inadequate. The conclusion says it all. “While PE will continue to debate the issue of governance, and the publications and recommendations of all bodies contributing to the national economic debate, it was decided to close this thread given the content of some of the contributions and, so, move on.”, i.e. you’re making us feel uncomfortable, and, this being Ireland, we’d prefer to avoid the issue rather than to confront it.

I have now made a comment asking them to raise these issues themselves and moderate the discussion if necessary.

P.S. I have no issue with the staff of the ESRI as shown by my comments in this recent discussion.
http://www.irisheconomy.ie/index.php/2010/02/03/municipal-waste-management-policy/#comment-34968

]]> By: Mark Coughlan http://thestory.ie/2010/02/05/tanaiste-lies/comment-page-1/#comment-2028 Mark Coughlan Sun, 07 Feb 2010 17:19:26 +0000 http://thestory.ie/?p=1085#comment-2028 Nothing to do with us Oliver, we have no involvement in TASC, I'm a fond reader and find it educational and insightful but I've never met anyone from that group, though I'm they're good people. I'd say there is a plain explanation, I note they've just changed their comment moderation policy, maybe it's to do with that. I suggest you take it up with them. Mark Nothing to do with us Oliver, we have no involvement in TASC, I’m a fond reader and find it educational and insightful but I’ve never met anyone from that group, though I’m they’re good people.

I’d say there is a plain explanation, I note they’ve just changed their comment moderation policy, maybe it’s to do with that. I suggest you take it up with them.

Mark

]]> By: oliver1vandt http://thestory.ie/2010/02/05/tanaiste-lies/comment-page-1/#comment-2027 oliver1vandt Sun, 07 Feb 2010 16:07:33 +0000 http://thestory.ie/?p=1085#comment-2027 @Mark Coughlan I have to record a deeply distressing incidence of censorship on the progressive economy blog on tascnet. In the original thread about the Finance Bill the deeply questionable governance of the ESRI was discussed. This thread has now been closed without public explanation. http://www.progressive-economy.ie/2010/02/finance-bill-2010.html With tens of thousands of people emigrating it is extraordinary that the Irish establishment, even those committed to academic freedom, are unable to discuss the ESRI's governance. Have they learned nothing from the damage their obsessive secrecy has caused? @Mark Coughlan
I have to record a deeply distressing incidence of censorship on the progressive economy blog on tascnet. In the original thread about the Finance Bill the deeply questionable governance of the ESRI was discussed. This thread has now been closed without public explanation.
http://www.progressive-economy.ie/2010/02/finance-bill-2010.html

With tens of thousands of people emigrating it is extraordinary that the Irish establishment, even those committed to academic freedom, are unable to discuss the ESRI’s governance. Have they learned nothing from the damage their obsessive secrecy has caused?

]]> By: Stephen Dunne http://thestory.ie/2010/02/05/tanaiste-lies/comment-page-1/#comment-2019 Stephen Dunne Sat, 06 Feb 2010 10:40:45 +0000 http://thestory.ie/?p=1085#comment-2019 Great post - Regardless of a government U turn, which as you detail is clear, Mary is so, so, so far out of her dept. For how long can we have her in such an important portfolio? She is error-prone, useless and woefully inexperienced. But most of all, she seems really, for want of a better word, thick. Nothing seems to get through to her. What does it say about the country when we have her looking after jobs while the economy heads down the swanny. I find myself saying this far too often lately: sure if you didn't laugh, you'd cry! Great post – Regardless of a government U turn, which as you detail is clear, Mary is so, so, so far out of her dept. For how long can we have her in such an important portfolio? She is error-prone, useless and woefully inexperienced. But most of all, she seems really, for want of a better word, thick. Nothing seems to get through to her. What does it say about the country when we have her looking after jobs while the economy heads down the swanny. I find myself saying this far too often lately: sure if you didn’t laugh, you’d cry!

]]> By: Kevin http://thestory.ie/2010/02/05/tanaiste-lies/comment-page-1/#comment-2018 Kevin Sat, 06 Feb 2010 01:07:05 +0000 http://thestory.ie/?p=1085#comment-2018 Great post and links! Great post and links!

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